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Tuesday, July 13, 2010
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What a Wonderful Problem To Have

Morgan Shelton on the Journal Reader Advisor Committee seems to think Milwaukee has a "Big Problem":

A new report says Wisconsin has the highest rate of obese African-Americans in the U.S. – one out of every two adults. Since most live in Milwaukee, our city has a BIG problem. Poverty and pricey healthy foods are two cited reasons. I'm calling out African-American women specifically for worrying more about sweating out their hair than caring about their bodies. Out of the handful of African-Americans at the gym, I only see a couple of women busting a sweat. The other few in matching outfits are busy "looking cute." Maybe we should start a "Wrap It Up or Braid It Up" campaign. Any takers?

Morgan does not link to the report, not does he give a clue as to the author of the report, but I'm guessing it's this one. What I found most interesting, was that poverty and high prices were the reasons for a rise in obesity. In most countries, and even in our own country not too long in the past, those two things would have led to greater hunger and starvation.  Of all the "problems" that a community can have, I can think of few better than being too fat because you are poor.

I am also curious as to why Mr. Shelton is "calling out" anyone. They are the ones who have to live with their bodies, not him. Unless of course, he is simply "offended" at having to look at fat women... which sounds more like a personal problem than anything else. Certainly, it seems counterproductive to complain about anyone who has taken the time, and money, to join a gym. Why don't you concentrate more on your own workout Morgan.

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:47:31 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Whoa, it's not like he's calling for government action here. We should absolutely call out fat people. They're making bad decisions that make them take up too much space on planes and be generally gross. If being called out for it influences them to decide not to be fat, that's a good thing. It's still their choice, but there's nothing wrong with using your voice to try to make a chance.

I don't really buy that being poor necessarily makes you fat, but being too fat is just as unhealthy as being too skinny. And that correlation does exist. It's not a wonderful problem to have.
jesusisjustalrightwithme
Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:38:51 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
The Journal's story on the study is here. In my experience, it's the narcissists at the gym who complain the most about other people's bodies, seconded only by guys with big beer guts commenting on women's bodies. Yes, calorie-laden food is cheap. Obesity can lead to a great number of health problems. You want to be proud of that?
Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:30:03 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Proud? No. But I'm trying to add some perspective here. If you compare the extremes of food issues... there is extreme lack of food (starvation) and extreme gluttony (obesity). If I had to choose, I'd rather have the latter than the former.
Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:13:37 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
You should not be surprised at the correlation between poverty and obesity In the US today, calorie-dense foods that are high in added sugars and fats are cheap. On a per-calorie basis, a soda is cheaper than apple juice, french fries are cheaper than carrot sticks, a bag of flamin-hot doritos is cheaper than an apple and a yogurt. There are some of us (I'm not naming names) who are overweight because we can afford to make healthy choices and often don't. Others simply can't afford to.
Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:11:12 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
A Libertarian suggesting there's only a two-dimensional spectrum of choices! Somebody smack him with a laminated Nolan Chart. You've been drinking with too many Republicans.

Clearly Jay and I are reading from the same talking points, but I will enjoy pointing out the irony in pointing out that he failed to add the element of education to the mix. Past poor choices can be driven by a lack of knowledge. Teaching about good nutrition can lead to better choices not only in diet, but can lead to improving life in general.

Look back in Milwaukee's history: The Settlement Cookbook, today known as the first classic collection of American ethnic recipes. It was created as a fundraiser for a charity that helped immigrants with assimilation and education. The story brings tears to my Milwaukee-born foodie eyes.

One of H.L. Mencken's "Smart Set" pieces comes to mind, too. It's always stuck with me. He talked about how the food he ate affected his writing and thinking ability.
Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:58:24 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Jay,
Soda is cheaper than Apple Juice? Maybe, but who cares? They're both full of sugar and will make you fat. Doritos cheaper than yogurt? Again, maybe, but who cares? They're both full of sugar and will make you fat. A Krispy Kreme donut has less sugar than a Yoplait original (10g to 17g) for Chrisake.

"There are some of us (I'm not naming names) who are overweight because we can afford to make healthy choices and often don't. Others simply can't afford to."

Indeed. And then there are those that are fat (I'm not naming any names either.... Jay) that are fat because they don't know how to eat healthy. Yogurt and apple juice are BAD for you. Especially in terms of weight gain. Carrot sticks are good. Apples are okayish in moderation. If you want to eat healthy try meat (grass-fed and free range etc.), vegetables, nuts, seeds, a little bit of fruit, a very little bit of starch, no sugar.

Now what gets me is that a lot of the people that make the claim about healthy food being too expensive are the same people that oppose Walmart putting stores in poor neighborhoods. Is there a better source for cheap, relatively high quality meats and vegies than Walmart?
jesusisjustalrightwithme
Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:04:17 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
All excellent points jisawm... especially regarding Walmart. And yes, when it comes to food, people too often equate "natural/unprocessed" food with "low calorie" incorrectly.

Though I believe there is a certain body of research that shows that HFCS is digested in your body differently, and creates a different insulin response, than other simpler sugars. Overall though, that has a smaller impact on weight gain than pure calorie counts.
Friday, July 23, 2010 7:54:04 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Haysoos, if you start with milk and warm it with the right bacteria, that's yogurt. If you add a bunch of sugar to it, is it still yogurt? Comparing doughnuts to yogurt? By serving portion? That's not even apples to oranges. By weight?

Have you actually purchased and eaten real grass-fed beef? I say this as a person with locavore tendencies and several local steaks in the freezer. It's not the same stuff as a corn-fed steak. It doesn't cook the same. You're in for an unpleasant dinner if you cook it like your last steak.

Walmart meat? Kinda yucky, if you ask me. There's a lot of odd Mexico-raised beef in the stores these days. And by "the stores" I don't mean the actual Mexican groceries, who are smart and savvy enough to sell Midwest-raised beef, often butchered on the premises.
Friday, July 23, 2010 1:22:42 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Thanks for the yogurt-making lesson. But I cleary said Yoplait Original. Which is what most yogurt-eaters think of when they think of yogurt. I'm guessing Folkbum was talking about something similar. I don't think comparing Yoplait Original Yogurt to a Krispy Kreme is any more of a strech than any of folkbum's comparisons to which I was responding.

I buy exclusively grass-fed beef. You're insane. I have no problems cooking it.

I just mean Walmart meat and produce is better than McDonalds and shit like that, that folkbum was referring to. There have been studies indicatign Walmart groceries are better than Whole Foods.
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