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Wednesday, January 06, 2010
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Comparing the Candidates - Government Reform

Being an uncommitted voter, I'm really going to take the time to investigate all the candidates' issues and policies as we come up to the election.  I'm going to make an effort (though I'll probably slip now and then) to only compare the candidates on different positions, instead of only talking about one candidate when they put out a press release.  Mark Neumann recently unveiled his "Strong Wisconsin Reform", so I thought I would take the time to compare that with what Scott Walker and Tom Barrett have proposed thus far.

Strong Wisconsin Reform

Mark's reform is summed up as part of a 5 Point plan.  Why 5 points?  Because 14 points is apparently too many to work, and 5 points fits on your hand. I really don't know.  The first thing I see as I read Mark's Five Point Plan is that it really boils down to "supporting someone else doing something".  He will "ask" the legislature to amend it's rules and require five days of public review before a vote on a bill.  He will personally promise to limit himself to two terms (I'll believe it when I see it) and support term limits if passed by the legislature.  He will support the concept of allowing ballot initiatives (more on that later).  Pretty much every point in his "reform plan" involves him saying "pretty please with cherries and sprinkles on top" to someone else.

I understand that this is a tough row to hoe.  As President Obama found out, you can promise the world as a candidate for an executive office, but you are often times hamstrung by what the legislature does.  After all, in our system of government, the legislature passes the laws and the executive (Governor in this case) is in charge of carrying them out.  With that said, there are certain things that an executive can do to reform government using the powers of his office.  Unfortunately, none of the things he mentions really fit that bill.  Moreover, none of these concepts are very new.  Not that they're all necessarily bad (a 5 day review period is generally good), but when you combine old ideas with a lack of a proactive plan, it leaves me pretty unimpressed.  Many of these ideas could be turned into a proactive plan.  For instance, a promise to veto any bill that has not had a 5 day review period would be a way for the governor to enforce certain ideas, instead of simply suggesting a rule change to the legislature.

Citizen referendums, though a popular idea among many, are simply a bad, bad idea.  Zach of Blogging Blue does a good job of covering the issue.  The primary problem with ballot initiatives can be seen in California.  In that state, people tend to create initiatives that require the legislature to do something (usually an expensive something), but don't include a way to pay for it.  The legislature is then bound to implement the ballot initiative, and also figure out a way to pay for it.  That is one of many reasons why California has a massive budget deficit.  Granted, California has one of the highest (if not the highest) percentage of public sector employees belonging to a union than any other state which probably causes more problems.  The salary and benefits of the unionized public sector vs. non-unionized public sector is insane.

Walker's Plan

Scott's reform doesn't have a fancy name, but it does have 5 points!  It must be good then.  Scott is a little more vague than Mark in how he'd carry out some of his reforms (which I didn't realize was possible), but all the things that Scott mentions are at least things a Governor can do.  Never once do I read "ask the legislature to".  That's a good thing, because it means that Scott can be directly held accountable for the things he says he'll do in office... and he can actually do them!

These things include using General Accepted Accounting Principles during budget creation, "stripping policy and pork" from the budget (I assume through judicious use of the line item veto, but I'd like to see that specifically mentioned), and the pledge to end raids on segregated funds.  I would simply like to see more details behind the concepts.  For instance:

Start the state budget at zero. Just because a government program has a vocal constituency and a high-priced lobbyist does not mean it should continue, let alone receive automatic funding increases. Every dollar spent should be scrutinized and justified, not simply given a blind percentage increase.

Well, how will it be scrutinized and how will it have to be justified?  I understand that websites and campaigns are bad platforms for delivering details, but come one... give me something.  It's way too easy to just say "we'll cut the pork" or "I'll go over the budget with a fine toothed comb".  Maybe the campaign could list a few examples from the current budget that Scott would have scrutinized and decided to veto, along with an explanation as to why.

Barrett's Plan

I'm not sure what Tom's plan is, or if he even has one. His website has nothing but his announcement to run for governor, and a place to send money.  He may not have a plan to reform government, or it could be that his plan will include a pledge to have cute kittens perform line item vetoes with ink stained paws.  We'll see, and I'll be sure to post about it when it appears.

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Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:27:48 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
The only reform that will count is in how we fund our elections, and neither Scott nor Mark support public funding of elections. Thus we'll keep electing new politicians but the same moneyed interests will continue pulling the strings. U ntil we get our politicians working for US rather than THEM, we are stuck with high taxes, low jobs, and a state deficit.
Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:40:34 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Zero based budgeting was the slogan Jack Olson used in his run for governor in 1970. big Deal, everyone talks about it but doesn't happen.
The only thing that would work is to figure out accurately how much money is going to come in the next biennium, then list spending by priorities as Washington state did.
Cut off everything else after the funds run out.

Works perfectly every time.
Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:12:14 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Apparently Donal doesn't understand the effects of money. Campaign money is absolutely needed, and the best way to get a lot of it is to give away taxpayer assets in return. Until you get the private money out of the system it will work the same way every time. Money keeps challengers out of the race, so the more money the fewer the challengers.

Zero based budgeting? Oh, you want promises instead.
Friday, January 08, 2010 12:17:30 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Apparently Mr. Lohman does not understand the concept fo theft. "Public Financing" of anything means guys with state-issued costumes and guns come and confiscate property and wealth from one group of citizens to give to another group of citizens (or non-citizens as the case may be).

I as a candidate believe the state public defenders office should provide hand guns and handgun training to any person who has been issued a TRO or permanent restraining order. Think of a restraining order as a judge-issued carry permit. That is the statistically best way to insure the person "protected" by the restraining order actully survives violations of the RO.

How much of your money do you find acceptable to be stolen from your wallet in order to "publically finance" my candidacy?

If you contend that my plank is too radical for public financing, then you are admitting that public financing of elections is nothing more than incumbancy protection in another guise. This is becauae ultimately the incumbants get to decide who is "tame" enough to be granted a publically finance candidacy. Public financing of election is incumbancy protection.

As Thomas Jefferson said public financing of elections (or churches) is both sinful and tyrannical.

If you want to reduce the money flowing into campaigns, then you must reduce the power of the elected. The more power an elected representative has to:
1) have people killed
2) have people incarcerated
3) confiscate the property of people
4) distribute the confiscated properties to others
5) interfere with your business and your private contracts (e.g labor or insurance contracts)
6) interfere with the business and private contracts of your rivals

Then money will flow to campaigns out of rational self-interest to either use the power of the State to loot, jail and kill on your behalf or to prevent the the State from looting, jailing or killing you and yours.

Why is no serious money flows into the campaigns for national president of the Elk's club or the Shriners Temple? Simple, the president of the Elk's club cannot send out antler-wearing thugs to loot and pillage in the same way an Assemblyman, Senator, or Governor can send out thugs in blue-themed costumes and jack boots.

In a free society those elected to postions within the State would be as harmful to a citizen and an Elk president. Unfortunately, this is not a free society. So money will flow to the candidacies of those seeking office because those giving the money have an interest in the outcome of the election. That interest is based on their personal desires for service from the State on their behalf for either protection or predation.

What we need in America and Wisconsin is less political society and more civil society. I just wish the current trend was in that direction.
Friday, January 08, 2010 7:39:10 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
No, John, I fully understand that taxes are a form of government theft, and under our current system they are used to steal from the taxpayers and give the briber contributor, all in the form of subsidies, no-bid contracts, and pork barrel projects. So we are left with the decision of “zero taxes or controlled taxes.”

Oh, we could also “reduce the power of the elected!!!” I’ll let you handle that one; it seems to be very popular with the 5% who are libertarians, so I’ll let you fight that battle.

First, understand the system you support: politicians can take money from special interests who want in the taxpayers pocket. Oh, but let’s not give him the power! Then why have politicians at all? Do you want to go back to the 1800’s where there were no laws or regulations, and we solved our problems with guns on the streets? Yea, I mean Thomas Jefferson’s time! Would your employer condone your taking money on the side and giving corporate assets in return? I doubt it, but that's exactly our political system.

But the system I support is like Arizona’s, where candidates who participate in the system must get a predetermined number of signatures from the district, and no more than $100 can be given to his “seed money.” If he achieves his signatures he gets $75,000 to run his campaign, and that money can only be spent on the campaign.

But two critical points: The public funding does not come from taxpayers; it comes from a surcharge on criminal fines. If you don’t want to contribute, don’t speed. As well, it is voluntary on the candidate’s part. If he doesn’t like the system he can opt out and take private cash instead. (But 70% of AZ’s legislature has opted in, including Libertarian candidates).

And in case you don't already get it, the public already is funding the campaigns through this back door. To tune of $1300 per taxpayer per year. AZ's system costs the equivalent of $5 per taxpayer.

See WiCleanElections.org for more info.
Friday, January 08, 2010 5:42:46 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
RE: Do you want to go back to the 1800’s where there were no laws or regulations, and we solved our problems with guns on the streets?

Yes, I would not mind that reversion, provided Blacks, Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, Women, italians and other swarthy people also get to settle disputes with guns.

I would not want to revert to the 1800's, Wounded Knee version of "solv[ing] our problems with guns". the 1800's were considerably safer than now (provided your were not Black, Indian, Chinese, Mexican, or swarthy)

I also believe tyrannicide should be an affirmative defense available to an American citizen. If the person who shoots me is willing to reverse the burden of proof, he should be aquitted of murder if he can "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" that I is/was a tyrant.

So yes, I was absolutely serious about reducing the power of elected officials and giving guns to any RO recipient
Friday, January 08, 2010 5:54:00 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Oops.

The quote from Timothy Sullivan of the famous Sulivan Act is found at: http://www.little-acorn.com/docs/nfa01.doc

I forgot the http:// portion of the URL.

There is great historical amnesia that the draconian NY gun ban was instituted by a man running criminal gangs and that armed visitor to NY and the new Italian and Serb immigrants taking up arms were creating a "hostle working environment" for his men operating in the Red Hook district.


Monday, January 11, 2010 10:51:26 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
No Jack, I understand the problems with people being involved in campaigns and the money. if someone volunteers and works 50 hours per week on a campaign does he not have influence on the candidate?
You just believe that the great God of government will solve our problems, heal our wounds and pay for everything.
You are the most naive person I know.
As Churchill said: "democracy is the worst possible form of government that anyone could devise, it's just better than the rest."
Want to clean up crooks than help us expose the problems and messes and get off something that is never going to happen.
People do not want their money spent on campaigns.
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