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Sunday, November 04, 2007
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Your Concerns Ring Hollow

Fred points out that nobody on the "left side" of the blogosphere has blogged about the letter a local blogger got asking to have a link to the Sheboygan Police Department removed.  Apparently this lack of discussion is significant to our friend from Racine.  Interestingly enough, I also didn't blog about it, but it's unclear whether I'm part of the conspiracy or not.  Am I a "left leaning blog"?

The first thing I'd like to mention about this whole thing, is that it is very troubling on more than one account.  Either there is someone supposedly practicing law for Sheboygan who doesn't know enough about the law to know that he has no legal standing to demand what he did... or there are members of the government in Sheboygan who are willing to use their power and influence to intimidate citizens whom they serve.  Either way, it's very troubling for that city, and should never have occurred.  That should be a no-brainer.

With that said, I think its extremely important to say that the lack of blogging about a topic by someone means absolutely nothing.  We all have things that we blog about, and things that we don't.  Fred seems to be implying that all those on the left thought about this, had evil thoughts of deciding to ignore it, and then purposefully said nothing.  Fred ought to know, just as well as everyone else, that freedom of speech involves not only your right to say something, but also your right to say absolutely nothing.  That too should be a no-brainer.

But since Fred is making such a big deal about what people don't blog about... why is Fred suddenly so concerned about police abuse in the first place?  And why is this the abuse that many on the right side of the blogosphere are suddenly concerned with?  For a couple years ago now, I've been blogging about the illegal and abusive actions taken by police departments and SWAT teams against innocent citizens and non-violent criminalsPara-military units burst into people's homes without warrants, kill their dogs, have killed innocent elderly women, destroyed property, terrorized families and children, and even go after boot-leggers.  Does Fred, Patrick, or Jessica even acknowledge these actions?  Of course not.  But when a lawyer sends a letter to someone demanding a link be removed... that is abuse?!  Police officers killing innocent people, literally tramping on their constitutional rights, and terrorizing them is ignored, but sending a letter is such a horrible travesty that it turns into blog fodder for several days now?

You guys have a really screwed up sense of what abuse is and isn't.

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Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:38:58 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Yes, those things do happen, but they aren't happening in this state - or at least not that we know of. What we do have is a very power-hungry and rather warped mayor of a fair-sized city. This citizen activism is one very good way of dealing with such an elected official.

I don't see how it is warped.
Jim
Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:25:58 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Grow up Nick.

The left does not care because it is a conservative.

The same local left that runs around demanding condemnation when a conservative deserves it.

Your post is vapid and hollow.

My initial post indicated it should not matter if you are right left or middle, a municiplality gunning after a blogger should bother all of us.

The left ignored it as it was a conservative under attack.

That was bullshit.

Kinda like this post.
Fred
Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:31:40 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
What's the old saying - "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? Fred and the rest of the Milwaukee Conservative Chorus have sure enjoyed jumping on this one. It kind of sucks the oxygen from the blog-mosphere. Who wants to write about something that's been done to death, poorly? And over-acted! My goodness, they're cheering "I am Spartacus." They're making banners of support. And over on RDW, the mayor's been compared to Stalin, Hitler, Nixon, Peron, Chavez and more. OK, two of those were from Peter from Texas Hold 'Em. On his blog, he also added the KKK, I believe.

I can't want to see their unilateral and boisterous support of the next First Amendment case to arrive in Wisconsin. I rub my hands gleefully... will it a religious freedom question or a free speech question?

I posted a repudiation of the Mayor's idiotic move to Jessica's blog... never appeared. Hurrah for moderation and selective interpretation of evidence. It's incredibly effective for setting up straw men like this.

Then I thought about it. I think it would be fun to play along with Fred, just to see how his opinion will change. If we encourage all other non-right-wing-nut blogs to post a sentence or more acknowledging that the small-town Mayor's actions were foolish and wrong, how will Fred's (and Jessica's and Belling's) opinions change?

I also tried to imagine what would've happened if the blogger was a liberal or a libertarian. In my imagination, they would've received the letter and laughed. They would've posted the letter, laughed again, and said "Screw you." They would've been well-educated enough to know they were 100% in the right.

What did the conservative blogger do? She took down her link.

I added my parody of Owen's (and Texas Hold 'Em's rapper-poet P-Dig's) explanation of the Sheboygan situation on my web.
Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:13:02 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
John, maybe I can clue you in to something. This wasn't a free speech issue per say but abuse of power. You may not understand that, but that is what it is. You have a mayor of a town using the city attorney and the police department going after a political opponent. That is the issue, but it's nice to know you like to play games with your opinions because if I read something you write, I'll just assume you are playing games and give you no creditability. But then, I really never have given you much creditability in the past
Dan
Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:16:12 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I guess I just have a more optimistic view of people than you do Fred. Where you see people plotting and hating because they chose not to post on something, I simply see something that was chosen not to be a topic... just like you and I have chosen not to post on things that they have blogged about. Be careful throwing stones Fred, because your entire world is looking like glass.
Monday, November 05, 2007 1:13:30 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Dan, if this wasn't a First Amendment case, exactly which law do you think the mayor violated by trying to intimidate this citizen this way?
Monday, November 05, 2007 2:05:16 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I understand not blogging on this or that topic because I don't think anyone should blog on a topic unless they have something interesting to say. I'm also not really interested in blogger solidarity or anything like it, as I think a writer is a writer is a writer. When and where did I sign up for the blogger union?

I probably wouldn't have blogged on the topic myself except that local government officials playing dial-a-cop when someone gets under their skin is interesting to me, and I felt I had something else interesting to add.

However, I think "worrying only about what is really important" is kinda of an odd stand for a blogger or any writer to take. It's kinda like being told to eat all the food on your plate because there's starving people in China.

If we were only to focus on topics on the relativity of their importance, then surely even the examples you provide would be inadequate, no?

After all, some astronomers are studying an energy burst phenomena that is larger than anything previously measured, and if a similar event took place closer to us the whole solar system could be destroyed (take that, global warming).

I would argue even that topic is insignificant compared to the relationship between man and God. You notice I don't spend a whole lot of time on either subject on my blog.

It is intesting the reaction from the local leftwing (and libertarian?) bloggers that they cannot bring themselves to comment on the issue without mentioning that there are worse things that happen in this world. Is it a knee jerk reaction to everything that appears on talk radio and conservative blogs? Not one local blogger who was not a conservative have anything interesting to add to the discussion?

And should we expect blog posts in the future, "yes it's terrible Brett Favre threw three interceptions, but conservative bloggers would do better to obssess over the oppression in Peru"?
Monday, November 05, 2007 4:03:36 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I think you make great points James, and I don't disagree with any of them. My whole purpose in this post was simply to point out the insincerity in calling others out because they didn't blog on this topic. If Fred had only ever blogged on his opinions regarding this controversy in Sheboygan, I wouldn't have said a word about it. But now he's suggesting a conspiracy among all those who chose not to blog on it. That's bullshit.

I chose not to blog about it until yesterday, and wasn't going to until Fred's latest post on it. It wasn't because I have any ill will or anything towards Jenni, but simply because I had nothing to add. It was covered by so many others, what was the point? So many of the people who were blogging on it weren't actually adding anything at all. They were simply saying "me too!". Big whoop.

I generally don't blog on something unless I have something extra to add, or it's a topic that I'm not sure my readers would normally see, and I feel like I'm pointing out something unique.
Monday, November 05, 2007 4:18:15 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
This does not explain all those mommy-bloggers and those blogs that consist of posts like "Guess what funny thing my cat Snuggles did this morning." There are plenty of blogs that speak only of the insignificant. The average political blog isn't like that, though. I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out blindered hypocrisy, if one believes there have been far more serious violations (national or local) that went without comment. The effects of one ijit mayor in Sheboygan are limited in scope.
Monday, November 05, 2007 4:38:09 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
James, the point is . . . that yes, you can expet exactly such a reactoin if you post about all the bloggers who don't post about Favre, etc.
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