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Thursday, September 27, 2007
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The Problem With Subtle Racism...

... is that there is no objective standard regarding what is racist and what isn't.  Do read Renee Crawford's writing on subtle racism... and then ask yourself... what is the standard?  Is there one?  Can there be one?  Sure... there is always some asshole out there who calls people n*ggers, and talks about lynching, but by and large, Renee is saying the problems are now more subtle than that.  It's gotten to the point where "I'll know it when I see it" is the new standard, but everyone sees it a different way.  Can you label something as racist when that's the case?

Where some people are saying that "disaffected minorities need special consideration", others will talk about "the soft bigotry of low expectations".  Two different phrases to describe the same situation.  And depending on who you talk to, and which phrase you use to describe a situation, they'll both be considered racist.  Depending on who you talk to, both abolishing and encouraging affirmative action is racist.  You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Normally I wouldn't mind the contradiction in belief.  It seems that politics is built on the necessity for two sides to attack every issue from opposite extremes.  But the problem is that being labeled a "racist" has such immediate negative consequences, no matter who is doing the labelling, that it becomes a weapon to be used by both sides.  Decrying someone as a racist is an easy way to silence someone when you don't want to talk about what they actually said.

Renee talks about how teachers liked her because she was "proper" and "articulate".  Parents said other kids could play with her because she was "polite" and she "acted right".  Well guess what... that was the standard I was held to when I was a kid as well.  Now I'm not going to suggest that my upbringing was anywhere near hers, or that she didn't have to deal with real racists.  Where I went to grade school for instance, there was only one black girl in my class.  Granted, she was one of my close friends at the time, but that should paint a picture of the difference in our surroundings growing up.  Yet, there were plenty of kids who I wasn't allowed to hang out with because they weren't "polite" and because "they didn't act right", and they were all white.  I look at a lot of white parents today and how there children behave, speak, and act, and say to myself and others that "those people don't raise their kids right."

She says:

We are not "good blacks" and "bad blacks". We are people with different backgrounds and life experiences raised in a variety of cultures under the fabric we call America. The thread you were raised under should never determine the way you are perceived in life.

Maybe I'm reading into her meaning of "good blacks" and "bad blacks" incorrectly, but I wonder why there can't be the two groups.  I certainly think there are "good whites" and "bad whites".  To me, racism is when you determine a "good person" and "bad person" by their race.  But a person shouldn't be exempt from being called good or bad because of their race.

Label me what you will.

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Friday, September 28, 2007 9:20:53 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
And I think that's what she's saying: For her, there were many moments when she felt people had expected her to be ill-spoken or impolite or stupid, and then they expressed their surprise that she wasn't. Their default wasn't open-minded. It expected something else, and their surprise at the dissonance was apparently remarkable enough for them to feel they had to say something to her.

I remember a comedian mentioning a similar situation for Northerners: You're in a plane, and the pilot makes an announcement - and he's got a thick Southern accent. Do you assume he's an idiot? Or think nothing of it? Tom Wolfe even claimed that airline pilots unconsciously imitated Chuck Yeager's West Virginia accent. To your ear and mind, does an accent pre-color your impression of someone?
Friday, September 28, 2007 10:30:24 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
I would hope that ya'll wouldn't judge me by my accent, but we all know that happens daily. Even being in the deep south, those with thick "country" accents are looked down as ignorant until proven otherwise.
Nick, I agree. There are "good ____" and "bad ____" in every race. My children are only allowed to spend significant amounts of time with other children that have been checked for proper parent/child relationships that foster politeness, acting right, and respect for adults.
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lncoharp
Monday, October 01, 2007 2:15:37 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
What I'm saying is that by immediately assuming that because you have a particular accent or amount of melanine in your skin or the fact that you grew up in a certain neighborhood that you belong to the "good" or "bad" group of people, the actual pre-juding of the worth of a human being based on a set of circumstances of their American experience rather than the person they really are is the true judgment error that I am addressing.

I mean no disrespect for the wonderful people who not only invited me into their homes when I was young, but made me a member of their family. I only want to point out that many other people of color I went to school with or worked with in corporate Milwaukee who were and are awesome Americans were NOT given the same courtesy by everyone (by some, but not all) and that was not due to the people they were, but much more to their dialects or maybe even that they did not have light enough skin... Many honestly beieve that they do not prejudge a person before getting to know them, and yet will cross the street rather than walk straight ahead because a young black man is approaching from the other direction dressed in a way that to them is different and often misunderstood. This is often so subtle, they don't know they are doing it. I see it everyday on my walks downtown.

The subtleness was not and is not lost on me, but sadly, I fear it is STILL lost on them. For the most part, I would not imply that people in the north WANT to be racist. What I am saying is that still, many are and don't even know it. What is more dangerous to society?
Monday, October 01, 2007 2:55:29 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
I don't argue that this kind of racism doesn't occur Renee (I'm assuming that it's you who left the last comment)... but how can you make such assumptions?

My point, and I probably didn't emphasize the right parts enough, is that if this racism is so subtle that they person exhibiting the behavior doesn't know he's doing it... how can you? The kind of racism that you're talking about exists mostly in the thoughts of that person, and not in their actions, which can largely be left to interpretation and which can change greatly depending on the interpreter.

And as I said in my post, the same actions, viewed by different interpreters, can have widely different interpretations... some racist, and some not. What's worse, is that when one person may view "Action A" as racist, while another would view "Not Action A" equally racist. Now what are you supposed to do?

What I think this means is that the kinds of pre-judgement that is generally occurring with blacks, is the kind of prejudgement that occurs among all people of all cultures. What I fear, is that this prejudgement is then viewed as somehow worse than the prejudgement that occurs against people of all colors, and is given more weight, and people feel the need to punish it more. The reality is that everyone prejudges people to some degree. I know I've pre-judged people, and I know I've certainly be pre-judged. But does that rise to the level of "racism" when it's done against a black person?
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